First, let’s compare what happens when I tear apart women for racism/misogyny/homophobia:
meet Charlaine Harris: misogynist, racist, talentless - 6 comments, no wank
ann bishop misogynistic homophobic turd - 5 comments and 31 comments respectively, no wank (except some whiny shits on RPG.net crying about anti-white racism, but that’s not related to Anne Bishop specifically)
To what happens when I do the same to men:
R. Scott Bakker: Prince of Misogyny – 82 comments, tons of wank, author has personally linked it twice (the second time months after the fact!) and plops down the raging butthurt every time without fail; slavering neckbeard fanboys attended to circlejerk author and show up here to mansplain and tone argument the shit out of everything. Author believes “accusations of misogyny” (which he even acknowledges happen regularly, and in a more self-aware person that might have given one pause…) has damaged his sales. Score!
Joe Abercrombie’s THE LAST ARGUMENT OF KINGS and the rape of lesbians – 38 comments, no wank directly on this blog, but plenty to be found on Westeros.org. Synopsis. In this case, the author actually admitted he didn’t think it through/that writing a shrill man-hating lesbian who only exists to be raped is really pretty fucking offensive. No fear, the fanboys told him he was wrong!
Jim Butcher: chauvinist AND talentless–stunning combo! – 65 comments, tons of wank; slavering neckbeard fanboys attended to circlejerk author and show up here to mansplain and tone argument the shit out of everything
What should I take away from this? That neckbeards have shitty impulse control, and are generally more immature than say people who read Anne Bishop and Charlaine Harris? That they are more defensive, easier to rile up, and more likely to personally identify with the works they read (such that charges of -isms become assaults on their sterling characters)? I mean, just look at all this, isn’t it really embarrassing to watch? The Butcher troglodytes, the Westeros hissy fits, and of course the whole Pat’s Fantasy Hotlist thing. They all react in exactly the same way too, with gendered insults and cliches like “feminazi” or “man-hating” or “crazy bitch.” I’ve also come under some fire in the past for eviscerating Harry Potter–if there’s butthurt that compares to that of neckbeards it’s Harry Potter fandom, who will hear nothing but that JK Rowling is the goddess of all social justice ever and her writing is undiluted literary gold and eat death if you dare say otherwise–but it’s not like Harris has a small fanbase either. I don’t know the figures, but it’s likely that Harris earns more than Joe Abercrombie and R. Scott Bakker put together, seeing that she’s got a TV series based on her dreck and everything.
- A useful comparison is the Strange Horizons incident around Liz B. Woman reviews shitty fiction that fanboys like; fanboys lose their shit, etc etc. And that’s for some godawful tat that began its life self-published, not Abercrombie/Rothfuss/Bakker/Martin. Neckbeards truly are illiterate subcreatures.
- Now compare: some random fanboy getting angry at John Walker, a man, of Rock Paper Shotgun for some reason. Note the lack of “you’re crazy”, speculations as to Walker’s mental condition/whether he requires medication/whether he has been sexually assaulted.
Links of interest!
Yuri no Boke is my new favorite thing. It is a blog about lesbian things. Films and anime. Especially appreciated because such media can often be male-gazey, icky and shitty as fuck; highlights of the ones that are not those things are much appreciated. Also, yuri subtext from anime. It’s kind of hard to find anime that’s actually out-and-out yuri, come to think of it. I like her views on shounen, too.
Politeness is a red herring. You see, your *tone* was polite, but the *content* of what you had to say was not: it was rude and aggressive in the extreme. From the very first comment you left on the post, you belittled her argument and dismissed her experiences, and demanded that she focus on you instead. What you were saying to her was: “Why are you wasting your time talking about something as trivial and boring as whether one of the core works of genre fantasy, beloved by millions and imitated by genre writers for decades, contains insidious racist assumptions that don’t affect me? Why are you bothered about a silly thing like whether fans of these books dismiss and attack anyone attempting to point this out, and thus dismiss and attack your right to participate in discussion about the genre? Why don’t you talk about something much more important instead, like how you’re being really mean to me?” The fact that you didn’t swear and use allcaps is irrelevant.
Bolding mine. Hallelujah! Beautifully summarized.
Analogue: a Hate Story by Christine Love is out! $15 and DRM-free, just as promised. I hope to have a first impression post up soonish. For what it’s worth? So far, quite excellent. It has an interesting, unusual take on the generation ship idea, and features Korean characters. Lovely art, lovely soundtrack, lovely writing.
ShitRedditSays, a subreddit dedicated to catharsis. Mocks straight white cis males who say shitty things. Due to the things they quote/link, trigger warnings of ALL sorts apply.
Larry of OFBlog’s opinion on the Pat’s Fantasy Hotlist brouhaha.
Recently, there was a post that took another blogger to task for his depiction of her native Thailand (and his views on Islam and near-slavering over this “Girls of Geek” calendar). [...] Pat in his response to the Requires Hate posts does anything but acknowledge his obliviousness to how his words showed a callous disregard for a complex situation. No, the narrative there is that he was just pointing out an uncomfortable “truth” about the sex tourism industry over there (while neglecting to point out or being very unaware that sex trafficking is a very serious problem in both the United States and his native Canada). Of course, the way he put it was taken as very condescending at the very least, not just by acrackedmoon, but by several others who read it. But what happened is that there was no communication to hint that hey, ya know, maybe a native’s perspective might just be more valuable in this case than someone who, like the people in the Holiday Inn commercials, think that they “know” a culture or society just because they visited a few places over a period of days, weeks, or months.
Yet what’s even more disconcerting than the spewings of those who use the sexist terms of “shrill,” “harpy,” and of course the ubiquitous “bitch,” are those who feel that they should lecture her on her “tone” when it is precisely because of the trangression against “polite talk” (read “the deference of ‘inferior’ races/women to their white male superiors) that women like them are heard at all.