the feisty shrew – the misogynistic comedy of women beating men


One of the things shitlords like to cite as evidence MISANDRY IS REAL!!1! is that when women hit men it’s played for comedy. Now, some shitheel thought this was a funny piece of fanart to draw: “Tomboy BITCH!!” Telling, eh?

For context, the fanart and the page are from Ranma 1/2, a manga/anime that thinking about it is probably transphobic (I don’t retain much memory of it, it’s been a long time): it deals with a martial artist who falls into a cursed well and, as a result, when in contact with cold water he turns into a girl, whereas hot water turns him back. There is certainly shitloads of gender essentialism in it, though you may be able to make an argument that it does explore gender fluidity in a particularly unsophisticated way. But, anyway, as part of the slapstick Akane–the short-haired girl and Ranma’s fiancee–often hits Ranma with a mallet; this is played for laughs. But one of the things about Ranma is that he (let’s go with that, as it’s the gender he identifies as) is a superhuman martial artist. So are many of the male characters. Akane, while a trained martial artist herself, specifically doesn’t hold a candle to any of them. Essentially her beating Ranma up for laughs is comedic because it does no real damage due to her being an inferior fighter and Ranma being superhumanly durable.

So, women’s violence toward men is hilarious! Because women are weak and ineffective. Silly little waifs with their silly little weak fists! Biotruth says MEN ARE STEEL MUSCLE ROBOTS and a jackhammer to the head is easily shrugged off as long as it’s wielded by a woman! Moreover, said violence usually occurs from a misunderstanding–i.e. the woman is “hysterical” and “overreacting.” When the man is hit at all it is because he’s humoring her and letting her smack him.

Then there is shit like this:

Thunder boomed again as she strode down the stairs. She walked up to him like she intended to put a blade in his innards. Instead, she jabbed a finger into his chest. “You won’t improve my business, or yours, by bludgeoning the customers.”
Nix found himself at a loss for words. He located some only by changing the subject. “You’re quite lovely when you’re angry. Did you know that?”
“And you’re quite small of stature, angry or no,” she said.
And with that, she turned on her heel and walked for the stairs. He stood there, sputtering, and she shot him a final withering glance before she ascended.

–Paul S Kemp, The Hammer and the Blade

The key phrase is “you’re quite lovely when you’re angry.” Any moment you see “you’re so cute when you’re mad!” it’s an alarm that a shitlord this way comes. Men probably believe it’s disarming and flattering (no); what it is is an attempt to exert control and invalidate a woman’s anger. You laugh at a kid getting mad. You laugh at a little dog getting mad. You laugh at a woman getting mad, because she’s like a child or a small dog and you don’t believe her anger is either legitimate or will cause her to honestly punch you in your worthless fucking face. (Though if she does punch you or otherwise upset you for real it’s time to pull out the “hysterical mentally unstable bitch!” cards, at which point she is no longer a delicate waif but a bitch who deserves whatever she gets–rape threats, disproportionate violence, etc.)

You see this a lot in romance too. Romance authors are deathly afraid of their female protagonists coming off as unlikable (and romance reviewers subject said protagonists to unrealistic standards of likability–if she’s too shy she’s “weak and boring”; if she’s ruthless she’s “unsympathetic and unlikable” and a bitch). In this genre which focuses so much on women it’s of utmost importance to confine women’s anger within a framework that keeps her attractive to men.

On the verge of spitting fire for reasons she didn’t want to face, she yanked free. Dropping to the ground, she shoved him with all the strength in her diminutive body.
Clearly dazed, Keoni toppled right over, sending a cloud of blood-colored dust shooting into the air, blanketing them both. Ciaran set her shoulders for a fight, but Keoni’s apparent surprise at crash landing in the dirt wrought a chuckle from deep within his chest.
Ciaran expected anything but laughter in response to the shove. Yelling, an answering shove, perhaps a smack to the cheek; those she could deal with and remain righteously angry. His amusement shamed her. Keoni had been wrong to kiss her without permission but she’d been wrong not to tell him so rather than pushing him down. Flashing a contrite expression she held out a hand to help him up. He reached out to accept without comment.
Her personality had begun to change in some very nasty ways recently. Ciaran knew she needed to get a handle on her volatile emotions before she no longer recognized herself and others stopped wanting to be around her.

–Shirin Dubbin, Dream’s Dark Kiss

He kisses her without permission, laughs at her anger, and she is ashamed of that anger because.

“Do you? Huh?” He shook his head, crossing his arms and tucking his hands beneath them. “I was your choice. Whether you realize it or not, you sent out a mating imperative with your distress call… We’d have been there. Don’t you understand? You, your subconscious or whatever wanted a life mate, and you wanted me bad. Something deep inside you wants to be loved, manu. All you have to do is let me.”
She stared back at him. Dark emotion swirled inside her aura, clouding her thinking, and she said what she supposed she must to protect herself. “Fuck you.”
The man growled and reached for her. She snatched the frying pan from its place on the stove. Keoni knocked it aside, sending it sailing across the room so fast she could only gape at her empty hand. Bang. A cabinet door dislodged and slid to the floor, crushed by the rocketed pan.
She screamed and rushed him. He took her by both shoulders and lifted her off the ground while she kicked and screamed a stream of expletives cruel enough to gut punch him in a one-two combination.
She knew the words wounded him. She didn’t care.
Keoni managed to set her down on the countertop and push himself between her legs, putting an end to her barrage of kicks. Ciaran pushed against him until he imprisoned her arms by firmly pressing them to her sides.
She heaved with the exertion, making the mistake of meeting her man’s gaze. Hurt darkened his eyes.

–Shirin Dubbin, Dream’s Dark Kiss

So, this is pretty bad. Not the quality of writing, though the less said of that the better, but the dynamics of everything. Ciaran, who for some reason has a man’s name and I don’t think that’s an attempt to subvert gender binary, is an abuse survivor: her ex beat her up badly, and she’s trying to recover her confidence and sense of self. In the middle of working her psychopomp thing she meets Keoni in “the Dreaming” (the author is, I understand, a Neil Gaiman fan) who rescues her from a rape attempt (sigh). Keoni turns out to be one of those shitheel species who’s into “mating” with women for life.

What we’ve got in these two scenes is Ciaran’s anger being invalidated and attributed to her trauma–dark and “volatile emotions” she must get under control rather than legitimate reactions to, respectively, being kissed against her will and being told that she’s someone’s mate for life now, both of which I’d call pretty enraging. Worse, Keoni insists that she “wanted [him] bad” due to her subconscious, which is basically rapist logic. More telling is that on both occasions when Ciaran is violent toward Keoni, he laughs it off or is able to render her ineffective without effort. The language of him restraining her has sexual assault written all over it, from “[pushing] himself between her legs” to manhandling her. And, of course, none of her kicking or punching inflicts any real damage. The message is clear; he is a strong manly man and she is but a weak incapable waif in need of his protection (from her own volatile emotions, no less).

“You testing me, tita? Huh? ’Cause you can stop now. I’m not gonna hurt you, hit you, curse you, belittle, demean, or do anything to make you even a little uncomfortable. None of it. I’m a man, tita. A real one. And I know it’s not what you’re used to, but you better get acclimated real quick. Unless you’ve decided to live a half life, cut off from one another in a warped version of what life mates are meant to be, you’re gonna have to cut this shit out.”
He walked a furious path around the granite island and came back around. Placing his big hands on either side of her, he leaned in.

This encounter is followed by her unburdening her soul, him laughing at her while she cries (really), and them having sex. Healing sex that is, which does away with her trauma because he is “the One” and therefore is in possession of a healing cock. In decent people parlance having sex with an abuse survivor who just unburdened herself to you might be called gross and creepy, but in paranormal romance terms it’s apparently a sign that you are her one true soulmate. He is a real man, you see, and he won’t make her uncomfortable in any way except by forcing his “life mates” batfuckery on her,  invading her personal space, pushing himself between her legs, and exploiting her emotional vulnerability for sex. The only reason Ciaran could possibly be angry at any of this is that she’s a broken bird and not thinking clearly. Why, if she hadn’t been abused and was her old self, she’d have embraced sexual assault and forced marriage straight away.

All those “volatile” emotions are so unattractive in a lady. If you’re wondering, Ciaran’s weapon of choice really is a cast-iron pan.

One of the reasons Jormungand is so easy to like is that women’s violence in it is real and lethal, whether personal or by proxy. Koko orders you dead, you’ll die (she’s also a good shot if it comes to that). Valmet comes at you with a knife, you’ll die, and she’ll slice and dice her way through a compound of gunslinging men to get to you no problem. Nobody goes “teehee, what a cute little waif” at Koko–she is on the FBI’s blacklist and governments around the world are shit scared of her, with good reasons. When some British mercenaries make gross rapey jokes about her and Valmet, among other things, Koko fires them and later her team slaughters the whole lot. Her contempt for them is narratively validated; they wind up as bloody exploded chunks and nobody is going to tell Koko she was just being hysterical or unduly volatile. This is a work in which women, very simply, are taken seriously.

Taking women seriously–and by extension, women’s violence–makes men uncomfortable, which is why you’ll see the occasional crybaby bawling on twitter that the #killallmen hashtag is horrible and awful: he has been made uncomfortable by the kind of joke that’s usually directed at women. He is frightened that if given equal rights women will treat men just like men have been treating us. Hence the patriarchal, soothing mold of dismissing women’s anger as childish tantrum, women’s violence as a joke.

This is why we laugh when a woman yells abuse at a man. It’s not misandry. It’s misogyny.

27 thoughts on “the feisty shrew – the misogynistic comedy of women beating men

  1. The “cute angry girl men laugh at” trope should have died with the 20th century, but nope, it’s still being kept alive, and sadly women are as usual doing the grunt work for men. It makes me really sad (and angry) that women writers are still pumping out “romances” like this by the cartload, and other women are (apparently) nomming them up like they’re chocolate. I don’t want to break into another “it’s all women’s fault” that leaves men off the hook, but I will just say that the patriarchy is set up in such a way that it depends on women to do much of the work to keep it going. We’ve got to stop.

  2. Wasn’t there a lot of this in the Wheel of Time books as well? I remember a lot of “woman are so strong and in charge in this universe but look at how adorable they are when they get mad” and big burly men hefting hysterical women over their shoulders or binding them with magic. Also, any time women fight each other physically in those books it’s portrayed as a bitchy-slap fight, with at least one instance in which it’s explicitly compared to two children fighting. Which is a bit disturbing given that Jordan was clearly getting off on most of this but anyway.

    Ciaran, who for some reason has a man’s name

    There’s a female version of that name and everything :-/

    I read a book recently where the main character had a “demon name” that’s actually a real name in Japanese, apparently by coincidence, so maybe something similar happened here.

      • I sold my set of the first ten books and prequel a couple of years ago. By now I marvel at how I had no standards whatsoever until somewhere in my teens. But I think I might still have one or two of the Left Behind kids’ books, if you should want from that. I also have that Rhapsody trilogy which is fantasy romance.

  3. May I make an aside about kids getting mad? They can be funny, but you have to take them seriously, because their anger is still so real, and they seem to feel it if anything even more fiercely than adults do. Doesn’t mean they get what they want all the tome, because they (unlike adult men and women) need grow ups to set limits. But dismissing the anger is just as hurtful to them as it would be for anyone else.

    Come to think of it, I wonder if angry little girls get shut down more than angry little boys do. I imagine someone’s looked into this…

    • Come to think of it, I wonder if angry little girls get shut down more than angry little boys do. I imagine someone’s looked into this…

      That is a very good point.

    • I was treated like a beast or a spoiled brat for being assertive or saying ‘leave me alone,’ let alone when I lost my temper. And my grandmother would mockingly repeat ‘leave me alone’ at me.

    • The “he picks on you because he likes you!” topic fills me with too much rage and I find it hard to be coherent, but let’s just say I’ve experienced that. I think the idea that girls exist in order to be playthings for boys contributed a lot to my rejection of any sort of romantic relationship for my entire youth and my lack of sociability in general. (I will say that I think the basis of a lot of this dismissal of girls’ reports of boys “bothering” them is also based on fear that if we take the girls seriously then we somehow validate the boys’ actions, and is based on an underlying fear of violent males and how women should learn to disarm these wild beasts with sweetness and jokes and so on. It’s no way to raise kids of any sex.)

      • And here comes the manipulative “oh, but you should be smarter”, which means that you’re supposed to shut up and smile. And then perhaps find some walk around to get results through deception or manipulation. Sweet.

  4. Exactly, that’s what I’ve thought. And I’ve hated Taming of the Shrew ever since I read a children’s version summary of it at the age of ten. Nothing has induced me to read the actual play.

    This is why I can’t read romance. That was painful and sickening to read, and typical (also of fanfic: most of the romance I read back when I did was in fic, and I see no difference between it and the excerpt posted here.)

    And it is painful to be dismissed and made fun of, or alternately treated like a beast, for being angry. It is horrible. I never adjusted well enough to avoid that, which has an effect on my sociability. I was already inclined to be solitary and am Asperger’s, but all this crap about likeability and how if people weren’t shitting on me for it it was because they were too scared of me or just pretending out of niceness has made me think I can’t be liked, even though I have occasionally had friends and thought they liked me, even though I know it isn’t true. I hope this hadn’t been too much about my personal life. If so, I am sorry.

  5. I must agree with you. Despite being a woman, I’m angry when men don’t want to hit a woman despite being injured very greatly at battle.

    It’s quite tricky.
    Guy beating female: He’s being labelled as female abuser.
    Guy won’t fight female: Pussy.

    So they make male vs male, and girl vs girl. Sigh. Why double standart, guys? Violence is violence. Guys, girls, animal, they get hurt if being beaten up. It is painful no matter whom received it.

    P.S: If you want to read Shonen hero/villain don’t show any mercy toward female, just read Jojo Bizzare Adventure, Majin Tantei Nougami Neuro, Full Metal Alchemist, Kongou Banchou.

    • I’m afraid you’ve missed my point. We don’t agree at all, actually, since most of your comment appears to consist of internalized misogyny.

      You think it’s an awful thing that men don’t get to beat women up without being “labeled an abuser,” but you don’t seem to understand that physical violence from men towards women is rooted in misogyny and ongoing oppression, and there are institutionized power dynamics in play. An act of physical aggression from a man towards a woman carries the connotations of, among other things, sexual assault and silencing: “Bitch! Bitch needs to be put in her place!”

      The problem isn’t that men don’t get to beat women up whenever they like and get away with it (they do get away with it though; consider how many rapists and abusers walk free), it’s that women’s anger and violence aren’t taken seriously.

  6. ” it’s that women’s anger and violence aren’t taken seriously.”
    Hmmm. If a guy or reader don’t take woman’s anger and violence seriously, then he’s underestimate her. Same with woman that don’t take man anger seriously.

    There’s many series that take woman’s anger and violence seriously. Just like you said about Jormungand.

    “He kisses her without permission, laughs at her anger, and she is ashamed of that anger.”
    Ah, typical romance cliche. Bad duy x innocent girl trope. It’s sexual assault because the guy who did it. I wonder if it’s the opposite. The girl is the one that kisses him without permission and laugh at his anger. Is that still called sexual assault?

    • tsuruhami,

      In the jurisdiction where I work, the statute defining sexual assault and sexual assault on a child makes no distinction for gender of either assailant or victim, so the superficial answer to your question is “yes”, at least where I live. (Although mere kissing doesn’t fit the statutory definitions underlying sexual assault anyway.)


      The vast bulk of sexual assault on a child cases I’ve prosecuted involved male perpetrators, while a tiny percentage have involved female perpetrators, on both male and female victims. The discrepancy is more stark in the area of adult-on-adult sexual assault: I have never had an allegation of sexual assault by a woman on an adult male even cross my desk. (I do recall one case in which an adult female was accused of sexually assaulting another adult female.) Of course, need I say that there are always numerous man-on-woman sexual assault cases going on at any given time even in my medium-sized county.

      While I’m sure a little google-foo will turn up incidents of woman-on-man sexual assault, they will be noteworthy for their sheer rarity. And while individuals should be held accountable for their individual actions, it should be very clear that the societal problem is NOT woman-on-man sexual assault.

      A woman who won’t take no for an answer is usually just rude or annoying or possibly pathetic. A man who won’t take no for an answer is much scarier.

      • A woman who won’t take no for an answer is usually just rude or annoying or possibly pathetic. A man who won’t take no for an answer is much scarier.

        Yes, and there’s an entire cultural force behind this–a man has societal misogyny backing him up in his sexual assault from the media to women saying no being called “frigid bitch” and being pressured to “put out”; he can slut-shame (or “frigid-shame”) her, he may physically attack her, and rape culture will encourage him to do both as well as assist him in getting away with it. Women? Not so much.

  7. @Tigerpetals “And it is painful to be dismissed and made fun of, or alternately treated like a beast, for being angry. It is horrible. I never adjusted well enough to avoid that, which has an effect on my sociability. I was already inclined to be solitary and am Asperger’s, but all this crap about likeability and how if people weren’t shitting on me for it it was because they were too scared of me or just pretending out of niceness has made me think I can’t be liked, even though I have occasionally had friends and thought they liked me, even though I know it isn’t true. I hope this hadn’t been too much about my personal life. If so, I am sorry.”

    As a total internet stranger, three things occur in relation to this. (1) it is perfectly normal for you to object to being dismissed when you are angry as if your anger was childish or unimportant, it is a horrible feeling and it is not something you should feel troubled by or worry that it’s an indicator that you are several steps further down the Aspergers spectrum than you thought (2) if you have people you identify as friends and who take the trouble to be polite to you, odds on they probably do like you, even if they are bad at expressing it or don’t express it in precisely the way that you would wish them to, and you can build on that (3) when you control your anger, your ability to be persuasive shoots through the ceiling and you become likeable by default. Righteous anger at shit that’s just wrong is important and part of being a decent person, but knowing when to hold it in is part of being an effective person and has value too.

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  10. We’ll say trigger warning just to be safe. The real life version of this trope happened to two female friends of mine at a night club. A couple guys approached them on the dance floor and grabbed one of them inappropriately. She pushed him off, and he and his buddy responded by laughing at her. They stopped laughing as soon as our other friend threw a punch at his face. He blocked her fist and told her to “calm down.” Then he and his friend turned around to walk away, at which point she slammed her fist into his kidneys and left him limping his way off the dance floor.

    I was at the bar and missed the whole thing sadly. The laughing was kind of a front. He needed to laugh to gain control of the situation and to try to defuse someone else’s anger. If you’re an asshole, you do these things to convince yourself that it’s not a big deal. But he was an idiot for turning his back. My friends aren’t exactly the type of ladies to let that shit go unchallenged.

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