meet Eric Juneau, feminist warrior, rape apologist and thin sheets of women

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Who the fuck is Eric Juneau? Dunno. Edit: a rape apologist who thinks rape survivors are too loud and angry, among other things. Until two days ago I’d never heard of him. What’s drawn my interest is that he has thoughts on writing women (and thoughts on rape), which is kind of like having thoughts on yaoi but more offensive and tiresome. Many thoughts! Oh, so very many thoughts. He is a feminist, self-proclaimed and self-validated–never mind what any woman might say to the contrary. Did I say thoughts? No, what he wants to share with you, ignorant plebs, is his philosophy on writing women.

Most of it is kindergarten neckbeard blather about strong women and similar, drawing from Half-Life of all things, and while tedious, belaboring the obvious and useless–and chock-full of tiresome gamer-speak plus a smug conviction that he knows best–it’s not that offensive until you come to this gem:

I don’t want a character that’s defined by her presence, but by her motivations. She is a person first and a woman after that. A person with characteristics/traits that tend towards womanliness (is that a word?). I don’t characterize her by her body or her boyfriends or yogurt or being inept with technology or doing laundry things. I give her interests and traits universal to any person. Then I layer a thin sheet of woman on it — a little more emotional intensity, a little more nurturing, more connectivity with people. She’s not aggressive and violent, she’s not a linear thinker, not a constant crier, not so goal-focused (though goals are important and necessary, they are less tangible). A Barb Wire, high-heeled, cold warrior bitch is not a woman. It is a woman doing an impression of a man doing an impression of a woman. It’s a fantasy — unrealistic and implausible.

It’s amazing how much a man knows about being a woman, isn’t it? Isn’t “a thin sheet of woman” incredibly creepy and objectifying? Isn’t it presumptuous for him to be going around dictating what a woman is and what is not?

“A woman doing an impression of a man doing an impression of a woman”–in which case, would Eric Juneau be a monkey doing an impression of a man doing an impression of a Nice Guy? What’s with the “a little more emotional intensity, a little more nurturing” bullshit? Gosh, I don’t know. Rank sexist stereotypes, perhaps? A thin sheet of woman to Eric Juneau, it seems, entails being emotional and nurturing.

Even your average neckbeard pretender knows that’s not going to endear you to feminists of any stripe.

Because she’s not being a lesbian, she’s being a drunk, inept cook. She’s funny, cute, awkward, charming, winky, drunk, and lovable. It’s not like she’s those things despite being a lesbian. She is those things because that’s who Hannah Har is. They’re all part of the recipe.

Do you see. He treats women like real human beings! He thinks women are people, made of peoplely human traits! Stand up, friends, and give him applause. Encore! Encore! This note of self-congratulation continues when he informs us that he doesn’t think his wife is a domestic slave:

It’s stupid to think that woman are there just to make laundry or sandwiches.  As much as I’d like a personal slave, marriage doesn’t work that way.

Why it’s as though he has a doctorate in Professor Mansplainer. Next follows a bunch of bullet points with charming contents like:

 Men are linear thinkers – one thing at a time, in straight lines of logic. They want to deal with HOW. Women think in circles – circles that are connected and have relationships and emotions. They want to deal with WHY.

 Have women get emotional about what they really care about.

 Women make connections.

 Keep in mind their age and monthly cycle. Menopause can be very freeing, because they won’t have the emotional ups and downs. From age 10-50, the hormonal bell curve has a constant effect in life.

 Females are nurturers. Men are fixers. A woman may try to sense what someone needs and provide that. But if a female is self-absorbed, she wants nurturing herself and will go to any lengths to get it. But it is still about nurturing.

Why not have some disgusting heteronormativity to go with it too?

 Women love how men look. When they smell good, in a shirt and tie, young, thin, muscular, older, tall, smart, handsome, accomplished, kind, generous.

 A woman who is friends with guys must hit the “sister/buddy” button to belong. Not the girlfriend button. It doesn’t do much for your love life.

 Girls are stupid, women are smart. Teenage girls think about boys and sex a lot. Women are more inclined to think about careers or something that doesn’t involve men. Thinking about babies occurs, but tapers off after 40.

 Women find sincerity, humor, self-confidence, and broad shoulders attractive. Jaw lines, powerful hands, and how a man presents himself are also attractive.

Eric Juneau would like you to believe, to be sure, that all this he lifted from David Farland’s sexist bullshit fuckwaddery and that the bullet points are all summaries of what women said. You may have noticed, however, that Juneau’s own advisory about writing women lines up with a good many bullet points perfectly–”a little more emotional intensity, a little more nurturing” being the central idea of his “thin sheet of woman” factor, yes? This, Eric dear, is what we call revealing.

He moreover presents these bullet points without commentaries, as the conclusion of his worthless prattle. Quoting doesn’t necessarily imply endorsement, but if you see me quoting something from Orson Scott Card’s homophobic tirade without offering any commentary whatsoever, what’d be the first thing you think? Surely not “she’s silently condemning Card” because we none of us are psychic. Even the most inept student of Feminism 101 would have noticed that the bullet points are ignorant generalizations rooted in undiluted misogyny. So why does Juneau not say he disagrees with any of them? Why, indeed, does he quote them as part of his “This Is How You Write Wimmen” high-horse gallop?

Either he thinks these points are perfectly fine or he fails to recognize that they are deeply problematic, deeply sexist. Whatever the case, this disqualifies Eric Juneau from ever calling himself a feminist, or even a feminist supporter. He’s a tiresome little poseur who’s panting, tail wagging, in the hope of getting a feminist treat–a medal to commemorate his bravery as a male feminist ally, perhaps. When he finds that women have arrived at his blog to pin that medal into his eye socket he reacts predictably.

Now let’s find out who Eric Juneau is.

Who are your writing influences?

Stephen King, Joss Whedon, Neil Gaiman, Peter David, John Scalzi

Look at that! An absolute lack of women writers. And yet, never forget, friends: Eric Juneau right here is a feminist crusader. Especially damning are the mentions of Stephen King and Joss Whedon, the former of which isn’t especially known for his nuanced feminism and the latter of which is… well, Whedon. Ugh.

Why do you write?

I tell stories because I have no stories of my own.

It’s true. I really live a dull life. I don’t travel very often. I’ve only been out of the country twice. Once was to Cancun with my family. The other was on a Carribbean cruise. I haven’t even been to Canada, and I live in Minnesota.

No comment.

His list of favorite books lists two books by women, both incredibly safe and popular choices–The Hunger Games and Harry Potter. The rest, you will be unsurprised to hear, are a sausage fest. Mostly white sausage fest, too.

UPDATE: Need further convincing that Eric Juneau is a waste of oxygen? He wrote this post about rape. TRIGGER WARNINGS. TRIGGER WARNINGS RIGHT NOW.

And I’m in that majority, but I’m trying to understand the minority. But I can’t because they’re thrusting all of their anger, their resentment, their fear, their shame, on me. So I can’t get a rational discussion going, to get information so that solutions can be found. Maybe to raise awareness or to dash misconceptions. No you get a bunch of rapees pointing fingers and saying “You’re wrong. You don’t know the struggle. It’s this way, there is no fuzzy area, no middle ground, no different degrees of rape. If she never said yes, you raped her. And you’re ignorant for not knowing”. It’s the same reason white people can’t use the n-word in any context–the fraction of people who blow up over the issue.

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I have to say all this here because the comments are closed, thanks in no small part to me. That says because I’m not understanding, I should cease to make any attempts to try and understand. I can’t ask a basic question without twelve people jumping down my throat telling me how wrong I am with so much anti-rape rhetoric they no longer remember how to have a rational discussions about it.

That’s fine. I’ll be your bad guy. Nothing I’m not used to.

Next time, I’ll just stay out of any rape discussions. Clearly, I don’t understand it, and people don’t want to teach me. Fine. Keep your stewing in your rape juices. I’m going to play Left 4 Dead.

He went from clueless neckbeard to RAGING RAPEYNESS THIS WAY COMES shithead. Almost impressive. There’s some kind of rape apologia going on in there, too. Rape juices. Wow. This right here? This is subhuman. Eric Juneau needs to shut the fuck up, forever.

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  1. greenknight01

     /  March 17, 2012

    He started out with half a clue and ended on a negative score.

    And if you want to learn about women, don’t start with a mysogynist male writer who manages to pack an astonishing amount of fail into an astonishingly small amount of wordage.

    • acrackedmoon

       /  March 17, 2012

      The negativity of his score is now unmeasurable.

      I thought I’d seen all the disgusting posts about rape there were to be seen. Oh how wrong.

      • greenknight01

         /  March 17, 2012

        Haven’t seen the rape post yet. (Not sure I want to.)

        But anyone who has posts about ‘the hottest women’ does not strike me as, ahem, particularly feminist.

      • greenknight01

         /  March 17, 2012

        Dear Gods. I was willing to give Mr. Clueless of the first post a little leeway – sure, he was being an idiot, but not an idiot of extraordinary proportions. This post…

        It goes past clueless and way out the other side. Pass me the brain bleach, please.

  2. Another poor helpless victim of Google ban. Drop everything and start educating him!

  3. Nonny Morgan

     /  March 17, 2012

    o.o

    It didn’t sound so bad at first until I got to the end of the first paragraph…….

    Of the male writers listed, John Scalzi actually seems to have a decent clue in his writing and presentation on his blog regarding feminist issues. However, listing Joss Whedon? I mean, the guy’s works are like crack to me (one of the quotes from Illyria in Angel is important enough to me I want to get it tattooed, ffs) but, um, the whole business with Charisma around her pregnancy alone is enough to prove that he really is not the greatest role model here.

    Not having any women authors listed at all when there are so many awesome ones out there? FAIL.

    Also, these “lists” of what women are really like? *sigh* I keep seeing this like this go around, and my response is always, “Apparently, I am secretly a man.” Because 90% of it never fits me. Stereotyping FTL.

    • acrackedmoon

       /  March 17, 2012

      I thought he’d already hit rock bottom! Then I saw the post about rape.

    • “Apparently, I am secretly a man.”

      That’s make two of us, I guess. Also, apparently I’m a “Man with boobs” is anything in that linked livejournal post is true.

  4. ronanwills

     /  March 17, 2012

    Men are linear thinkers – one thing at a time, in straight lines of logic. They want to deal with HOW. Women think in circles – circles that are connected and have relationships and emotions. They want to deal with WHY.

    I had hoped ideas of gender had moved past simplistic “men are from Mars, women are from Venus” bullshit, but apparently not. The ironic thing is that if I was to trot out a list of supposed male characteristics he’d probably have no trouble recognizing them as meaningless.

    there are two types of rape victims.There’s the ones that have the little girl voice. Timid, high-pitched, breathy. Someone got to them when they were eight or nine, and arrested their emotional development. That’s why they sound the same age as when they were molested.

    I’ve spent the last ten minutes trying to think of some way of articulating my horror and disgust at this paragraph, but short of an ASCII image of me gouging out my cerebellum with a spoon, I couldn’t come to a decision.

    Both a robber and a rapist can get what he wants from any person–male or female (we all have a hole somewhere)

    You are not funny, Eric Junaeu. Punch yourself in the face right now. Then keep doing it until the sweet release of the void envelops your mind.

    • acrackedmoon

       /  March 18, 2012

      there are two types of rape victims.There’s the ones that have the little girl voice. Timid, high-pitched, breathy. Someone got to them when they were eight or nine, and arrested their emotional development. That’s why they sound the same age as when they were molested.

      Somehow I failed to notice that. Then again I just… skimmed. The longer you read it the more BRAIN-BREAKINGLY HORRIFYING THINGS you find.

  5. Jesus Christ. My personal favorite part of that blog on rape is where he ~imagines~ that he was a rape victim and then decides that, yep, he was to blame for “letting his guard down” (wut? because rape only happens when you “let your guard down”). Because he imagined that rape REALLY REALLY HARD, OK, and CLEARLY that’s the same thing as experiencing it, so absolutely makes his opinion TOTALLY VALID and lends a great deal of weight to it, as an imaginary rape victim. Like he wanted a fucking cookie for imagining that scenario.

    Honestly, I’m genuinely surprised that a person who is at the very least *aware* of rape culture, who read those two blogs he linked to in his post, could still actually write something like that. That’s actually kind of scary. Talk about not getting the the point.

    • acrackedmoon

       /  March 18, 2012

      “EVERYONE SHOULD GET RAPED AT SIXTEEN, HAHA” like wtf. He keeps talking about wanting to have a rational discussion but even by manchild neckbeard standards he’s not rational in any way whatsoever.

      Honestly, I’m genuinely surprised that a person who is at the very least *aware* of rape culture, who read those two blogs he linked to in his post, could still actually write something like that. That’s actually kind of scary. Talk about not getting the the point.

      Yeah! Everyone was content to let him off as basically clueless, and then I realized he wrote that and has already read stuff about rape culture, &c &c. And probably has participated in discussions about it with actual survivors. Fuck. He has a daughter! For fuck’s sake.

  6. Why do some USians like to brag that they haven’t even been to Canada? These must be the same people who say proudly that they speak only one language, that language being American.

    BAWWW STOP PICKING ON ME FOR NOT KNOWING IF SOMETHING IS SEXIST OR RACIST I JUST DON’T KNOW ANY BETTER PLEASE TEACH ME. But only if you are going to do it nicely and patiently and while smiling primly with your hands crossed in your lap.

    What’s that? You can’t. You’re being too emotional and irrational and WHY SHOULD I LISTEN TO YOU YOU SELFISH BI—

    And way to say you’ll stay out of rape discussions, while simultaneously going on and on about rape.

  7. wwwwwwwwwow. the fail. the amazing AMAZING fail. and according to that list I’m not a woman or, at least I’m about 5% woman – I still like shopping. How do you find these people? Seriously, I’m torn between weeping for humanity and reaching through the computer screen and bludgeoning this moron with a lead pipe.

  8. Who the heck is this guy?

    Seriously, is he someone that’s actually published, or just another piece of shit on the internet? (rather than a piece of shit with real-world presence extending beyond the stench of his awfulness)

    • acrackedmoon

       /  March 17, 2012

      I think he’s got some short stories out there? But that’s about it. With some luck, he’ll have neutered his career at least as far as progressive editors go–his rape piece got linked around quite a bit last year, I believe.

  9. From his rape post:

    “It’s the same reason white people can’t use the n-word in any context–the fraction of people who blow up over the issue.”

    “No, rape is never okay. But that doesn’t mean you can walk into the ghetto and start shouting “nigger”.”

    I think those statements nullify each other.

    • “No, rape is never okay. But that doesn’t mean you can walk into the ghetto and start shouting “nigger”.”

      I keep trying to read that, and the cognitive disconnect keeps rebooting my brain every time.

  10. His blog didn’t accept my comment. This is my sad face.

    If white people shouting the n-word in the ghetto are asking for a beatdown, ignorant people shouting at abuse survivors are asking for the same.

    What I want to know is, if people with a history of abuse go on to seek other abusive relationships, how can the subsequent abuse be their fault when the initial event that triggered their self-victimizing behavior was not something that they chose? (Furthermore, is he somehow under the assumption that rape only happens to women? Granted, that was how it used to be legally defined in most parts of the U.S.)

    Taking precautions to protect yourself from becoming a victim is understandable. But does that mean that if you slip up, you were asking for it? Does this line of reasoning happen for any crime other than rape or sexual assault?

    Last week, someone smashed in the window to my car. I had parked it on a street that was known for vehicle burglary and vandalism. Am I kicking myself for not moving it? Yeah. Is it my fault it happened? Well, if it hadn’t been my car out there, it would have been someone else’s. The people who did it were walking around deliberately looking for a vehicle to vandalize. A crime was going to happen no matter what I did; it just wasn’t necessarily going to happen to me. Self-defense isn’t about preventing crime; it’s about protecting yourself. Unfortunately, even if you manage to protect yourself, someone with a will to commit a crime is still going to do it; they’re just going to find someone else to do it to.

    Not sure what to make of the gay frat rape scenario (there are all gay fraternities?), except to say that if he’s ever changed in the men’s locker room at a gym, he’s already been in an unguarded position around gay men. Last time I checked there were no gay only public restrooms either. Not sure why he seems to think that having your guard down + close vicinity to someone attracted to your gender = spontaneous rape. Rape isn’t exactly a natural extension of sexual attraction. Rapists tend to have anti-social personality disorders, violent tendencies, and other issues (some have personal histories of abuse as well). The heart of the problem lies there, not with who they choose to perpetrate their crimes against.

  11. He seems to be clueless on many levels. Caveat – I’ll use Half Life 2 as an example as it’s something I know about. His major criticism of HL2 was that it didn’t explain the entire plot to him before the game began, therefore ruining his enjoyment, so deduction and reasoning aren’t high on his mental agenda.

    In terms of the way the rape blog was written, it took me two reads to even understand what he was getting at. I’d like to think it was a drunken posting from a bar somewhere but as he’s not edited it in any way [unlike the creepy "How I write women" post, which was lightly edited to include credit to Runelord writer] it seems clear that it was written when he was clear headed. Which makes both of the posts even more disturbing.

    Can’t wait to hear his views on race… not.

  12. don’t want a character that’s defined by her presence, but by her motivations.

    i.e., absence (rather than essence) precedes existence. the character is to be defined not by ontological “presence,” but by the absence that motivates her.

    She is a person first and a woman after that.

    and yet, contrarily, the first term in subject, she, negates the predicate of this sentence: the sentence expresses an absurdity, much like “this statement is false.” not sure if that indicates a similar series of absurdities in the gender politics of the writer, but it’s not indicative of anything good.

    A person with characteristics/traits that tend towards womanliness

    pretty sure that’s just old school gender essentialism.

    I don’t characterize her by her body or her boyfriends or yogurt or being inept with technology or doing laundry things. I give her interests and traits universal to any person.

    universal traits for all persons therefore do not include extension into space, sexuality, hunger, and the ability vel non to perform skilled and unskilled labor. what, then, must the universal traits be? i suspect a nassty lurking immaterialism underlying this collection of theses.

  13. I was in the “well he’s trying to listen and understand so maybe he can be
    helped” and then I read the updated part of your post.

    I feel like I stepped into some kind of lunatic zone:

    Did…he…claim *he* was being victimized by rape victims? Because they were mad at him over the internet?

    • acrackedmoon

       /  March 17, 2012

      YES. YES HE DID. He also thinks they have privilege over him. You know. The privilege of having been raped.

      sjghslhkjlkjsldfgkjxgl;

      • Specifically, he suggests socialised rape – mandatory rape for everyone on their sixteenth birthday – in order to correct our society’s current, grievous rape imbalance.

        I wish I was making this shit up.

        • wasn’t the universal rape argument proposed to cure the defect of knowledge in the non-raped, rather than correct an imbalance? once all persons have suffered the crime, then all will “have a frame of reference” allowing everyone to “about it rationally.”

          on the one hand, it’s an admission that those who have not suffered the crime have a defect in their knowledge that does not allow them to speak rationally about it. i’d like to believe that this is a sign of political maturity.

          on the other hand, however, the crassness of presentation, and the remedy proposed, assume that the true victims of the crime are those who have the defect in knowledge, i.e., those who have not yet experienced the crime itself. the solution is therefore to cure the defect of the non-afflicted by afflicting them, rather than abolishing the affliction ab initio.

  14. Wait, the FUCK? He suggested WHAT? I have to request a link. I can’t buy this…

    • acrackedmoon

       /  March 19, 2012

      Sure.

      I have a solution. At age sixteen, everyone gets raped. Men and women. That way we’ll all know what it’s like, we’ll have a frame of reference, so we can talk about it rationally.

      • …fuck? I mean, the whole bullshit about writing women was infuriating, but it just made me roll my eyes (like I usually do at neckbeards), this however… arg!

  15. Are we sure that this isn’t Rick “Rape Babies are Gifts from God” Santorum in disquise?

  16. Okay, having read that whole post, I have to say…what a smug little prick. Is there a single word in that post that wasn’t dripping with offended, smarmy arrogance?

  17. “on the one hand, it’s an admission that those who have not suffered the crime have a defect in their knowledge that does not allow them to speak rationally about it. i’d like to believe that this is a sign of political maturity.”

    I got the sense that he was saying he was rational, but those who’ve suffered sexual assault are not gifted with his detached view. As in, once everyone is raped no one can use the “rape card”.

    • no doubt he consciously believes that he is the rational interlocutor, even though the words that he’s written signify the construction that i’ve given them: the affliction must be universal as a condition precedent to rational discussion about the afflication; the non-afflicated are therefore those who obstruct rational discussion. it’s a decent example of freud’s repression thesis in action.

      i’m more interested in which ideology has buried this admission in his brains and rendered it invisible to his conscious mind.

      • greenknight01

         /  March 20, 2012

        What strikes me most about the ‘universal rape’ thing is that he treats rape as a universal, repeatable experience, almost as if humans are machines. He makes a distinction between people-who-were-raped and people-who-weren’t without any understanding that the experience of someone abducted and raped repeatedly over several days differs from the person who gets assaulted at a party from the person whose partner ignores their ‘no’ and buys them flowers afterwards. Rationality, as I understand it, is something completely different.

  18. Not to mention the mental gymnastics he does explaining why anyone stopping him using the word retarded is trying to censor him and then compares the situation to fantasy novels about magic…

    http://author-quest.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/i-am-dick.html

    and his posts on Jim Hines blog where he asks to be educated…

    http://www.jimchines.com/2012/03/the-wolves-the-pig-and-the-retarded-bunny/comment-page-1/#comment-99737

    • acrackedmoon

       /  March 20, 2012

      Wow, that’s really recent too. It’s not just that he doesn’t learn, he’s not even willing to learn despite his pleas for rationality and discussion. Shoving a rusty chainsaw down his throat appears to be the only viable method with which to educate him.

  19. Let me be succinct. I agree 100% with Eric Juneau’s most recent entry: he’s a dick. As for “thin sheet of woman” and its supposed intrinsic attributes — substitute “non-white” for “woman” and the crude Tarzanist awfulness becomes obvious, if it were not so before.

  20. the twisted spinster

     /  March 21, 2012

    I have tried to post on this for the past two days but I have so far been unable to get a word out due to attacks of Unstoppable Rage every time I contemplated the oleaginous, fetid, dumbfuckery that this manchild writes. For starters, the idea that women are “more nurturing.” To that I say many things, most of them starting with the letter “f” and ending in the letter “k.” I am female. I am not any male tittybaby’s nurturing momma figure. I just might piss on Eric Juneau if he were on fire, but that would be because he deserves to be pissed on, and also the urine will sting in his burns.

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